@Wulf I hope I don't sound like an ass but I am seriously confused. Regular hurtworld doesnt give me this much of an headache. I use Host Havoc rented server. It gives the option to convert server to itemv2. when I add the oxide for itemv2 through Host Havoc, it results in the server being an old version. When I update the steam after installing oxide for itemv2, it removes the oxide but then I can join my server. I get that some plugins work but my main problem is getting the oxide to work in the first place to use plugins. Is there a pre-made build of oxide for the current itemv2 to download or no? Do I have to create my own build or something? I just see all types of terminology being thrown around and I can only half understand it all. If the itemv2 servers that are already up using oxide have admins that understand all this stuff and how complicated it is, then maybe ill just wait it out. Wasted my money on the server but atleast I can learn something on the way.