so plugins probably not the issue, just game servers suck and i have to have a tiny map. right? that sucks...i love the big maps. rust even expanded the default map and is forever adding new stuff that would eat up server resources, so there is no excuse for them to not give us more memory for our server. sad part is it always happens to me, so i always think it must be the plugins in some way and give up on my server each time. whole time it was mostly my actual server. frustrating! ok well i will go whine at game servers some more lol. thanks for ur help.